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May 7, 2008 8:17pm

37 post(s)

Do you need to use a fat burner during contest prep if your macros are in check your training is in check and other supplements like protein powders, EFA’s and BCAA’s are in check?

I am only asking this because the INBF doesn’t allow Ephedra and I think all the other legal fat burners out there don’t work or work VERY little, If I am tired I will have some caffeine I think that’s all you need. Let me know if you think I am wrong.

May 7, 2008 8:29pm

Lucas Farrow

882 post(s)

Here is my take on fat burners effectiveness. I've tried SEVERAL...hydroxy, lipo 6x, sans, and a few others.....dont work...nothing happened accept i got shaky hands and a lil more workout energy. I dont take them any more and i am losing weight fine....its what you eat not the pill. I think those things dont work unless you are staring yourself.

Lucas

May 8, 2008 2:27am

Dr. Joe

Administator 2,961 post(s)

Caffeine is appetite suppressive but the crash can make you hungrier. All thermogenics have some value in that they do increase cellular activity and that heat loss is energy, but it's minor at this legal level. Even ephedrine would have to be taken at 150-200 mg per day to be very effective. Use them pre-workout/cardio but staying on them all day to "lose body fat" - not the best use of your money.

May 8, 2008 6:48am

Menna

37 post(s)

Looks like I will drop two supplements from my list…Fat Burner and Xtend I thought it tasted too good to be true…Can anyone recommend another BCAA supplement that wont stop or hurt my weight loss?

May 8, 2008 10:44am

graig

1,210 post(s)

the BCAA pills will do fine.

May 8, 2008 10:46am

Lucas Farrow

882 post(s)

Yes too good to be true on xtend...now layne will come in here and kick me arse for downing xtend probably. Try plain bcaas. I havent done this, but it might work.

Take your bcaas and put stevia in them with flavoring like a squeeze lemon or something else that is calorie free, but is flavorful. It might work.

Seriously menna i use to be a junky with supps......i saved my money and stil grew and still lost weight.

Although nano vapor, just for the caffeine rush, is fun from time to time. No harm in that, just do it in the off season.

Buy cheap products from reputable brands and thats it. Bigger servings per can AND CHEAP!

lucas

Jul 1, 2008 2:20am

Rene Marven

25 post(s)

What is wrong with Extend? Sorry I am just reading this, and I must have missed that. I am not currently using Extend, but have in the past and have really liked it! Sipped it during my weight training workouts last year.

Rene'

Jul 2, 2008 12:21pm

Austin

187 post(s)

The artifical sweeteners have been theroized to slow fat loss. I believe Dr. Joe has been noticing this with his clients.

I however disagree with the, there is no good fat burner. But first let's say that your nutrition is 100% most important. The fat burner will not "make up" for poor eating habits. But personally I have had great success with Anadrox Pump & Burn. It has 7-Keto, which as recently been taken off the banned substance list. It will increase thermogenisis, make your body heat up and burn calories that way. It only seems effective (for me anyway) for 2 weeks at a time. So cycle it 2 weeks on 1 week off. You will notice your skin becoming a lot warmer than it usually is. I think it is important to cycle it because I believe it works to increase thyroid... so like steroids and testicales, you dont want your own thyroid production to slow down too much. Get it?

May 7, 2008 8:17pm Menna 37 post(s)	Do you need to use a fat burner during contest prep if your macros are in check your training is in check and other supplements like protein powders, EFA’s and BCAA’s are in check? I am only asking this because the INBF doesn’t allow Ephedra and I think all the other legal fat burners out there don’t work or work VERY little, If I am tired I will have some caffeine I think that’s all you need. Let me know if you think I am wrong.

May 7, 2008 8:29pm Lucas Farrow 882 post(s)	Here is my take on fat burners effectiveness. I've tried SEVERAL...hydroxy, lipo 6x, sans, and a few others.....dont work...nothing happened accept i got shaky hands and a lil more workout energy. I dont take them any more and i am losing weight fine....its what you eat not the pill. I think those things dont work unless you are staring yourself. Lucas

May 8, 2008 2:27am Dr. Joe Administator 2,961 post(s)	Caffeine is appetite suppressive but the crash can make you hungrier. All thermogenics have some value in that they do increase cellular activity and that heat loss is energy, but it's minor at this legal level. Even ephedrine would have to be taken at 150-200 mg per day to be very effective. Use them pre-workout/cardio but staying on them all day to "lose body fat" - not the best use of your money.

May 8, 2008 6:48am Menna 37 post(s)	Looks like I will drop two supplements from my list…Fat Burner and Xtend I thought it tasted too good to be true…Can anyone recommend another BCAA supplement that wont stop or hurt my weight loss?

May 8, 2008 10:44am graig 1,210 post(s)	the BCAA pills will do fine.

May 8, 2008 10:46am Lucas Farrow 882 post(s)	Yes too good to be true on xtend...now layne will come in here and kick me arse for downing xtend probably. Try plain bcaas. I havent done this, but it might work. Take your bcaas and put stevia in them with flavoring like a squeeze lemon or something else that is calorie free, but is flavorful. It might work. Seriously menna i use to be a junky with supps......i saved my money and stil grew and still lost weight. Although nano vapor, just for the caffeine rush, is fun from time to time. No harm in that, just do it in the off season. Buy cheap products from reputable brands and thats it. Bigger servings per can AND CHEAP! lucas

Jul 1, 2008 2:20am Rene Marven 25 post(s)	What is wrong with Extend? Sorry I am just reading this, and I must have missed that. I am not currently using Extend, but have in the past and have really liked it! Sipped it during my weight training workouts last year. Rene'

Jul 2, 2008 12:21pm Austin 187 post(s)	The artifical sweeteners have been theroized to slow fat loss. I believe Dr. Joe has been noticing this with his clients. I however disagree with the, there is no good fat burner. But first let's say that your nutrition is 100% most important. The fat burner will not "make up" for poor eating habits. But personally I have had great success with Anadrox Pump & Burn. It has 7-Keto, which as recently been taken off the banned substance list. It will increase thermogenisis, make your body heat up and burn calories that way. It only seems effective (for me anyway) for 2 weeks at a time. So cycle it 2 weeks on 1 week off. You will notice your skin becoming a lot warmer than it usually is. I think it is important to cycle it because I believe it works to increase thyroid... so like steroids and testicales, you dont want your own thyroid production to slow down too much. Get it?

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