Lipodrene fat burner
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I am using lipodrene now for 1 week and it seems pretty good gives me more energy and keep me away from junk foods, any comment about this product? thks
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Seems like fat burners in general give good energy and "mental pump" but little research has been done to prove efficacy. ALthough I will say, I've tried Dialene 4, and as soon as I start a cycle on that I see changes. Could be mental though.
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Sleeplifter when you took the Dialene 4 did u get a red rash or spotty at all after taking it??
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There is niacin in there. Start with just one tab at a time. That is a niacin flush. You are very fair and will notice that more quickly.
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Thanks Mary i wanted to make sure this was going to go away! Do you suggest taking 1 pill twice a day ?
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Kelly. Regarding D-4 Start by taking just one daily. (I found out the hard way when I took 6 all at once. That was fun, (eyeroll).) The flushing will be tolerable/minimal with just one D-4, plus it "should" subside gradually each day. Minimize caffeine use during this period as well. You will find you don't need it anyway. Your body will adjust to the D-4 dose after about a week at which point titrate to 1, 2x per day. After your body acclimates (again about a week) titrate again to 2, 2x per day and so forth. You will titrate by adding one D-4 to your daily schedule each dosing period until you have reached 3 D-4's 3x per day. At this point, you will be a shredded 5% body fat anyway. So the flushing: The flushing or reddness in the hands, neck and face is caused by the quick release Niacin, also known as vitamin B3. Some people are more sensitive to it. It is more visible on fair skinned people. There also may be a hot, itchy or needly feeling. Some people experience in other places of the body -- but it is usually in the upper body--it may look like raised welts on some people -- or like you have actually been battered. Stay calm. Tell yourself "it will pass." It always will. In fact, try to take note of what it is like and where it is traveling on your body if you can. Niacin is actually beneficial-- and people taking naicin alone, are usually doing it to help lower LDL and increase HDL levels. These people are usually not bodybuilders and they find the flush extremely uncomfortable. What these people do, to eliminate the flush, is take a "No-flush" or "extended release" (ER) niacin. We don't want an ER Niacin in D-4. The quick burst of niacin from the D4 converts calories from fat into energy and it is part of the D4 fat loss formula. And now off the academia and onto some extremely useful information for you and all the forum: If you get the flush, you can reverse it. You can also prevent it. Take an asperin. I've experimented with this on my lab rat (myself). Always start with a low asperin dose if you will be your own lab rat. If you are trying this on someone else, heck, dose'em up! (P.S. I'm a bodybuilder, not a doctor. "Don't try this at home." LOL) Read this link: http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/17323787 PS - I doubt you will need 650mg of asperin as per article. Start lower than that. |
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Thanks Mary for all the information i had taken three pills this am and had breakfast 30 min later like they suggest, i noticed the rash on my arms and top of my hands about 2 hrs later and it lasted around an hour. It was just warm and spotty it did not itch though. I will start tommorow with just one and build my tolerance up as you suggest:) |
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Wow, thanks for that explaination Mary. This happens to me too and worried the hell out of me but Craig and Layne said the same thing but you just really delved into the details. I like details so thanks.
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You got it Brian! I like the flush -- it amuses me. (But I'm not normal-what bodybuilder is?) It reminds me that I'm burning fat, and I know it'll pass. I provided this information privately for one of my closest Team-K friends recently; so I had the link handy. I'm glad you love details because I love research. What I am still researching, is if you are minimizing the flush with the asperin, are you also minimizing the fat burning effects of the D-4? My hypothesis is no. You are simply widening blood vessels with the asperin. Niacin's roll in the fat burning forumla should not be effected. Layne might be a good one for that answer. However, here's a dose of logic: Asperin can be used as a tool to have at-the-ready if one finds oneself looking/feeling like they just became radioactive and a lengthy freak-out session is occuring. If for some reason the asperin does minimize D-4's fatburning effects for THAT dose, so be it. The person knows to take LESS D-4 for the NEXT dose, at which point you will neither need asperin nor will you have an anxiety provoking flush, if you have one at all. Logical? |
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True story: One of the things I asked Layne, is to see if Sciavation could print the directions a bit larger on the back of the D-4 bottle. Have you noticed how tiny they are printed? I was told that when you hit 40 your eyes get weaker. Have you ever seen 40 year olds reading things at arm's length? (lean in, I'll whisper a secret: That's how you can tell a person is 40 or over.) When I hit 40 to the DAY--like a spell was cast--I couldn't see anymore. I also had to hold things at arm's length. But my arm as long as it is, cannot hold the D-4 bottle far enough away to read those tiny letters in the directions. The first time I took D-4, I was trying to read the suggested dose. I thought I read the number "6" so I just popped 6 tablets on an empty stomach all at once. Okay...wow...that will put the heart to the test for any over 40 year old. LOL. We're talking flush, HR madness, blood pressure must have been thru the roof...who knows. I decided to sprint hills during the process to see what would happen. I started out at 6% body fat. I think I woke up the next morning at about 1%, and half a kidney. ;)
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Yes, makes sense. I don't care about the flush, I just didn't want to be harming myself so bring on the welts baby!
Brian |
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Hehe, 1% NICE!!!!!!!!!! I will do exactly what you did tomorrow morning.
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Brian - remember I started out at 6%. You may need 20 or 30 D-4's! I'm adding a wink in here so you and everyone else knows that I am joking, and you Brian, and everyone else better NOT consume that much D-4 all at once. Especially after I spent all that time this morning providing Kelly and the Forum with the proper titrating technique. Layne will be proud. But he'll kill me if everyone dies on the road sprinting hills after taking too much D-4 ! Besides, I never got to 1% after that episode. (It was more like 2% )
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Hehe, your right. I am about 90% right now
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Mary After you finished the bottle of Dialene did you continue on with another one? |


